NATIONAL TRUST RESPONSE TO
COMMITTEE OF INQUIRY INTO HUNTING
WITH DOGS
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INTRODUCTION |
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The National Trust was founded in 1895 as an independent charity to hold, in perpetuity, countryside and historic buildings in England, Wales and Northern Ireland for the benefit of the nation. It is governed by the National Trust Acts of Parliament 1907 to 1971. |
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The National Trust owns and manages a largely rural estate of over 245,000 hectares. This includes 183 houses of historic interest and also some 20,000 farm houses, farm buildings and smaller residential buildings including 46 villages. We have more than 1,100 farm tenants. Of the agricultural estate, the majority is based on livestock production and approximately 60 % is in upland areas. |
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We employ 3,276 permanent and 3,600 seasonal staff. We help to sustain a wide range of rural businesses and community-based activity. We work with many people including 38,000 volunteers. The Trust has nearly 2.7 million members and up to 50 million visits are made to National Trust properties each year. |
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The Trust is thus engaged with many sorts of people and relies upon their support. It impinges on the lives of innumerable individuals and social groups across England, Wales and Northern Ireland. The Trust has been engaged in the conservation of the countryside since 1895 and is the largest non-governmental conservation organisation in Europe. Unlike most landowners, the Trust has a primary and statutory responsibility to hold its property for preservation and to manage it creatively for the benefit of the nation. It has power to provide permanent protection and ownership by declaring its properties inalienable which means that they cannot be sold or mortgaged, or, unless the Trust consents, compulsorily purchased without invoking a special procedure of parliament. |
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PREAMBLE TO RESPONSE TO SPECIFIC QUESTIONS |
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The following response to the call for written evidence to the Burns Committee is based on the Trust's experience of managing its own land and on such research as it has commissioned. |
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At the request of the Secretary to the Committee, the Trust has already provided copies of: the Savage Report; its two annexed reports, one by the University of Southampton and the other by the Royal Agricultural College; and the Bateson Report. However, in an effort to ensure all relevant information is gathered together, further copies are attached as Appendices I to IV. |
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Attached as Appendix V is a copy of the Trust's Field Sports Policy Statement. Occasionally, sporting rights are either retained by former owners of land or the rights may have been sold or leased to a third party. For example, at Dunkery Beacon, Exmoor, the hunting rights are not held by the Trust. Also see attached, as Appendix VI, the 'Statement on decision not to issue licences to hunt deer with hounds on Trust land in the West Country '. |
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FACTS ABOUT HUNTING WITH DOGS |
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Question 1—What factual information do you have about hunting with dogs, including the organisation of hunting activities and the way those activities are carried out? |
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In 1988 the Trust asked Sir John Quicke to review hunting practices on its land. Following his report, the Quicke Report, a copy of which is attached as Appendix VII, the Trust set up a system for controlling hunting by annual licence. A copy of the standard licence is attached as Appendix VIII. |
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During the 1998/99 season, the Trust issued l 67 licences for fox hunting (mounted), 10 for foot packs (fox), 35 for hare hunting and l for drag hunting. These licences covered an area of more than 100,000 hectares. |
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The Trust's 10 years' experience of permitting hunting by licences, granted afresh each season, is that they have generally worked satisfactorily. They have improved regular communication with hunt staff and have clarified responsibilities. On the few occasions when breaches of licences have occurred, they have nearly always been inadvertent and hunt staff have been quick to remedy the situation. |
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| Data about the conduct of deer hunts is to be found in the Bateson Report (Annex D and E). | |
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RURAL ECONOMY |
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Question 2—What evidence is there as to the importance or otherwise of hunting with dogs to the rural economy in general and/or to particular areas of England and Wales? |
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Please refer to the Savage Report and its supplementary report undertaken by the Royal Agricultural College, Economic and Social Aspects of Deer Hunting on Exmoor and the Quantocks |
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Question 3—What evidence is there about the likely impact on the rural economy if hunting with dogs was banned completely? |
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Hunting generally |
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The Trust's farm tenants often use the services of hunt kennels to dispose of dead livestock. If hunt kennels disappeared an alternative means of carcass-disposal would be required, involving additional cost to farmers. |
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Question 4 — To what extent could any detrimental consequences of a ban be offset by greater participation in drag or bloodhound hunting or other activities or by other measures? |
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AGRICULTURE AND PEST CONTROL |
| 5.1. | Question 5—What evidence is there about the need to control the population of foxes, deer, hares and mink? |
| 'Control' of a species can be attempted by a number of means, depending on the species, the objectives of control and the local circumstances. Such means include culling, fencing off of vulnerable areas and habitat management. | |
| Deer The Trust has experience of both wild and park herds of deer. Both must be culled though the number will depend on management objectives, for example, to avoid damage to forestry or agricultural crops, to promote nature conservation or assist habitat management or deer welfare. This is particularly relevant to park herds where the availability of grazing limits the number of deer that can be sustained. |
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| Please see the Savage Report, its supplementary report by Southampton University Conservation and Management of Deer on Exmoor and the Quantocks and the Bateson Report. | |
| See also J Langbein 1997 The Ranging Behaviour, Habitat Use and Impact of Deer in Oak Woods and Heather Moors of Exmoor and the Quantock Hills. University of Southampton. A copy of the Executive Summary is attached as Appendix IX. | |
| Fox A wide variety of birds and animals are predated by foxes. Some examples from the Trust's experience are given below: |
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| Some of our farm tenants, for example in Wales and the Lake District, have serious concerns regarding livestock predation by foxes, particularly of lambs. | |
| Predation by foxes of breeding-bird colonies has caused the Trust to cull foxes by infra red aided night-shooting by rifle for example at Orford Ness, Suffolk and Blakeney Point, Norfolk. | |
| Game birds and domesticated fowl on our land are predated by foxes. | |
| Hare Hares can cause damage to young trees and a very high density of hares (which is unusual) in a particular area can cause damage to agricultural crops. Control of hares by the Trust is usually carried out by fencing. |
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| 5.2. | Question 6—What evidence is there about the advantages and disadvantages of hunting with dogs in terms of agriculture and pest control, compared with other possible forms of control? |
| Research commissioned by the Trust in this area relates solely to red deer in the West Country and cannot be applied to other species. | |
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Information is presented in the following reports: |
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1. The Savage Report |
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Question 7—What evidence is there about the consequences for agriculture and pest control if hunting with dogs was banned completely? |
| Deer If hunting were banned, compensation might have to be paid to farmers for crop damage. The Trust has already made such payments to some of its tenants on the Holnicote Estate. |
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| However, because the Trust's ban on deer hunting relates only to its own land and the hunts continue to operate, its experience is no guide to the effect of a complete ban. | |
| Where deer management objectives require culling and where hunting contributes to the cull, the number culled by rifle would need to be increased. | |
| Fox Where fox predation on other species is a problem which needs controlling by culling and where hunting contributes to the cull, the number culled by other methods would have to be increased accordingly. |
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| Hare If hare hunting licences were no longer granted on Trust property, it is not thought that there would be any significant need to cull hares in other ways. |
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| Mink Mink hunting is in principle permitted on Trust property but not where there is the risk of disturbance to otters. |
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| No mink hunting licences are currently issued on Trust land. We therefore have no evidence to suggest that a ban of hunting with dogs would have any effect on pest control. | |
| 5.4. | Question 8—What other measures, if any, would need to be taken to protect agricultural interests and to control foxes, deer, mink and hares? |
| Deer The Savage Report recognises the need for deer to be culled and that in the absence of hunting an alternative management regime would be required. In this context the Report notes, inter alia: "... the possible need for legislation in England to assist in the establishment of an effective overall deer management scheme, in particular by: |
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| i. Giving legal status to Deer Management Groups ii. Strengthening the laws on poaching and on the licensing of game dealers." |
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| Fox Where fox culling was necessary on Trust property, it would be undertaken, where appropriate, possible and within the control, by shooting - primarily by rifle. |
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| Hare The Trust's primary control of hares is by the fencing off of vulnerable plantations and new hedgerows. Where hares do get into such areas and there is a risk of serious damage, control by shooting, where appropriate and possible, may be necessary. |
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| Mink Where mink control were necessary on Trust property, it would usually be undertaken by trapping. |
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SOCIAL AND CULTURAL LIFE OF THE COUNTRYSIDE |
| 6.1. | Question 9—In what ways, and to what extent, does the existence of hunting with dogs contribute to or impair the social and cultural life of the countryside? |
| Deer The Trust's experience of deer hunting in the West Country is that it is an activity which arouses strong emotions, both for and against. Please refer to Appendix VI for a summary of the history of the Trust's experience. There is no doubt that deer hunting plays an important part in the social and cultural life of particular areas of the West Country and the Trust's decision not to renew deer hunting licences caused very significant local concern and resentment. However others in the South West expressed support for the Trust's decision. The issue generated by far the largest number of letters that have been received on any subject in recent years. |
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| Detailed relevant information is presented in: | |
| 1. The Savage Report 2. Supplementary research report by the Royal Agricultural College Economic and Social Aspects of Deer Hunting on Exmoor and the Quantocks |
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| The Trust is also aware that another report has been produced by the Royal Agricultural College, based on research commissioned by the West Somerset District Council. This report provides information on this subject. | |
| General The Trust has always been aware of the social and cultural importance hunting as a rural tradition (see Appendix V) and, in spite of an AGM resolution calling for a ban on deer hunting decided to take no action. Although, in the light of the Bateson Report, the Trust later decided that deer hunting was not compatible with its statutory responsibilities for animal welfare, it continues to permit fox, hare and mink hunting. |
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Question 10—What evidence is there as to its importance generally or in particular areas? See reply to Question 9 above. |
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MANAGEMENT AND CONSERVATION OF WILDLIFE |
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Question 11—What evidence is there about the present effect of hunting with dogs on preserving or damaging habitats and on the management and conservation of wildlife, including the quarry species |
| Deer A copy of a paper prepared by Dr Jochen Langbein for a meeting of the Trust's Council in October 1998 is attached as Appendix X. Since 1991 Dr Langbein (Honorary Visiting Senior Research Fellow, University of Southampton) has been conducting research on deer in the West Country. He worked on the supplementary report to the Savage Report and has been involved in other research projects. Through his local knowledge and experience, Dr Langbein suggested in a paper to the Trust's Council in 1998 that "... recent information further substantiates our earlier conclusion (in the Southampton University supplement to the Savage Report), that abolition of hunting is likely to have only a small or transitory effect on overall population levels and condition ". |
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General We also draw the Committee's attention to the research carried out for the West Somerset District Council by the Royal Agricultural College. This reports on the extent to which the activities of hunts promote conservation. |
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| 7.2. | Question 12—What would be the impact on these matters of a ban? |
| Please refer to our answers to Questions 7 & 8 and Appendix X. | |
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| 8. | ANIMAL WELFARE |
| 8.1. | Question 13—What evidence is there at present about the effect of hunting with dogs on the welfare of the quarry species or on the welfare of other animals, including those used in hunting activities and domestic pets and farm animals which may be affected accidentally? |
| The Bateson Report specifically considered the welfare implications of culling deer by hunting with hounds, as opposed to shooting by rifle. The Report concluded, inter alia, that: | |
| ... lengthy hunts with hounds impose extreme stress on red deer and are likely to cause them great suffering ... | |
| ... the alternative of shooting red deer, already accounting for most of the culling on Exmoor and the Quantocks, produces on average much lower levels of individual suffering.... | |
| ... I conclude that the level of total suffering would be markedly reduced if hunting with hounds were ended. | |
| Since April 1997 when the Bateson Report was considered, the Trust's Council has considered many other papers and a great deal of evidence (listed at Appendix XI), including most recently the report of the Joint Universities Study in January 2000. The Council has noted that there is a good measure of agreement with the Bateson Report on the scientific evidence. However there continues to be a divergence in the way in which the evidence is interpreted. The Council has therefore decided not to change to its decision not to renew deer hunting licences. | |
| A copy of the papers circulated to members of the Trust's Council in January 2000 is at Appendix XII. | |
| Also, we draw your attention to the following papers (attached as Appendices XIII, XIV and XV respectively) which are based on data gathered during the research commissioned from Professor Bateson: | |
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| 8.2. | Question 14—What evidence is there about the impact on the welfare of animals of other means of control which might be used if hunting with dogs was banned? |
| This subject is covered in the answer to Question 8.1 | |
| Please also see P Bateson & E L Bradshaw's article dated 1998 "How often do stalkers wound Red deer?" Deer 11, 4 pp 180 - 181 attached as Appendix XVI. | |
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| 9. | IMPLEMENTING A BAN |
| 9.1. | Question 15—What form(s) might a ban take and what would be the implications? |
| We do not have any information to present on this question other than that provided in the answer to previous questions. | |
| 9.2. | Questions 16—How might such a ban be applied and enforced? |
| We do not have any information to present on this question. | |
| 9.3. | Question 17—Would a ban need to be supported by any other action? |
| The need for quarry species to be managed, in the absence of hunting with hounds is noted in answers to previous questions. | |
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| LIST OF APPENDICES | |
| I. | The 'Savage Report' - Conservation & Management of Red Deer in the West Country |
| II. | Conservation and Management of Deer on Exmoor and the Quantocks - University of Southampton |
| III. | Economic and Social Aspects of Deer Hunting on Exmoor and the Quantocks Centre for Rural Studies, Royal Agricultural College, Cirencester |
| IV. | The 'Bateson Report' - The Behavioural and Physiological Effects of Culling Red Deer |
| V. | National Trust Field Sports Statement |
| VI. | Statement on decision not to issue licences to hunt deer with hounds on Trust land in the West Country |
| VII. | Quicke Report |
| VIII. | Standard Licence for Hunting with Hounds |
| IX. | Executive Summary of Dr Jochen Langbein 1997 The Ranging Behaviour, Habitat Use and Impact of Deer on Oak Woods and Heather Moors of Exmoor and the Quantock Hills. University of Southampton |
| X. | Paper by Dr Jochen Langbein for National Trust Council meeting in October 1998 |
| XI. | List of Papers circulated to the National Trust Council |
| XII. | Papers submitted to Council Meeting of 27 January 2000 |
| XIII. | Bateson P & Bradshaw E L (1997) Physiological effects of hunting red deer (Cerrus elaphus) Proceedings of the Royal Society, B, 264, 1707 - 1714 |
| XIV. | Bradshaw E L & Bateson P (2000) Animal Welfare and Wildlife Conservation. In Behaviour and Conservation. (eds Gosling L M & Sutherland W J), pp330-348, Cambridge University Press |
| XV. | Bradshaw E L & Bateson P (2000) Welfare implications of culling red deer (Cerrus elaphus)Animal Welfare, 9, 1 pp3-24 |
| XVI. | Bateson P & Bradshaw E L 1998 "How often do stalkers wound Red deer?" Deer 11, 4 pp 180 - 181 |
Date uploaded to site 2 June 2000